How would this be for a game changer - someone who appears dead really is not???
So who do we know that we have wondered what happened to him after he died in season 1?
Answer: Christian
This changes the game several ways.
If Christian was not dead at the morgue (just spider bit), then his appearance on the island in season 1 may mean he is really there on the island (Christian = Jacob?)
If he was there, how about Kate's horse, Sayid's cat, Hurley's Dave, AND COOPER. Maybe they are all real. Not smoke monster hallucinations. All a result of the long, and elaborate machinations of the Others to control things.
YEP. and remember the girl in the "?" episode. She certainly had the same circumstances as Paulo and Nikki did. She appeared dead even to a doctor and woke up hours later just before they cut her open.
So a spider from the island was on australia? Interesting. And Jacks dad is alive.
YEP. and remember the girl in the "?" episode. She certainly had the same circumstances as Paulo and Nikki did. She appeared dead even to a doctor and woke up hours later just before they cut her open.
So a spider from the island was on australia? Interesting. And Jacks dad is alive.
I'm confused...what do you mean a spider from the island was in Australia? Didn't that girl drown?
Anyone here from Down Under? In the US people are required to be emblamed except for religious reasons. Since I don't think Jack and Papa were Jewish they would have made sure he was dead one way or the other. And wasn't it a few days between Jack getting there, finding dead dad and arranging for the return flight? Wouldn't pop wake up by then and start banging on the lid? Ewww.
There is no reason that a person that drown would appear dead and then return to life. Unless you actually believe she was dead and came back to life.
I also believe that Christian had contact with the girls father (the psychic) because he is the one that paid the psychic to get Claire (Christians daughter) onto the plane. But that's just a theory.
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Anyone here from Down Under? In the US people are required to be emblamed except for religious reasons. Since I don't think Jack and Papa were Jewish they would have made sure he was dead one way or the other. And wasn't it a few days between Jack getting there, finding dead dad and arranging for the return flight? Wouldn't pop wake up by then and start banging on the lid? Ewww.
Jack wasn't sent there to return his fathers body he was sent there to find his father. So jack could've been on his way to australia before his father died. I'll have to rewatch those episodes to see what they actually say in regards to the timeline but I was under the impression that they were not going to do the whole embalming thing because he was going to be transported home and then they would do that part of it.
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I'll have to rewatch those episodes to see what they actually say in regards to the timeline but I was under the impression that they were not going to do the whole embalming thing because he was going to be transported home and then they would do that part of it.
There was definitely a rush to get Christian's coffin on the plane but I don't remember the details. I have always believed that Christian and his wife had something to do with Dharma. I would not be surprised if he used a ruse like a spider bite to appear dead and manipulate Jack into getting on that flight. So, when Jack saw him running through the jungle, it may not have been an apparition.
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Since I don't think Jack and Papa were Jewish
Agreed. Jewish people don't name their children Christian.
Anyone here from Down Under? In the US people are required to be emblamed except for religious reasons. Since I don't think Jack and Papa were Jewish they would have made sure he was dead one way or the other. And wasn't it a few days between Jack getting there, finding dead dad and arranging for the return flight? Wouldn't pop wake up by then and start banging on the lid? Ewww.
Actually..no, I think Jack father might have died the same day Jack found him. Ana left Christian Sherpard it was early morning,and was returning home that very same day. When Ana left him,he was still alive. so since they wound up on the same plane, Christian was likely not dead for long. As a matter of fact,I think he might have fake his own death,considering that the Medical Examiner /Morgue guy, "Geoff Heise",who was feature in White Rabbit was also in the Pilot episode . Which means that the Medical Examiner was on the same flight as Jack. Geoff Heise
Which raise the question, could the reason Jack didn't have the proper paper, was because they were never filed?...because he wasn't truely dead.
I'll have to rewatch those episodes to see what they actually say in regards to the timeline but I was under the impression that they were not going to do the whole embalming thing because he was going to be transported home and then they would do that part of it.
I know that this is a TV show and there's artistic license in play and all, but I thought I'd throw personal experience into the mix. My father in law died a year ago and we opted to hold his funeral and burial in another state, where he was originally from. They did the embalming here before transporting him, and it was just a short 3 hour flight within the US.
I have no idea how they do things like that in Australia though, so maybe they wouldn't have? I guess I am still undecided as to whether or not he is alive. I do believe that his character will end up being a crucial piece of the story line, but I am not sure if I can buy that he is still alive. It wouldn't look good for Jack, being a prestigious doctor, not being able to tell that his father was alive. They did say that it would be hard even for a doctor to find vital signs, but they've blown Jack's medical talents up to a status above "just a doctor" in my opinion. I think Christian being alive would be a hard pill for me to swallow, but I will wait and see how it plays out I suppose.
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