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One of Us Air Date: 4/11/2007 60 minutes EP: 316
Written by Carlton Cuse & Drew Goddard
Directed by Jack Bender


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Old 04-12-2007, 01:47 AM   #1
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Rachel's Charts

I have to say, when Ben brought out Rachel's medical charts out of his rabbit bag, you just had to figure he was conning Juliet like he did Sawyer (or did he: we now know that the Others can implant medical devices...)

But here's something odd: in watching that portion of the video in slo-mo, in the spot on the chart where you're supposed to indicate gender, it says: "Sex: MALE". Hopefully there will be a screencap somewhere tomorrow that I can post.

I'm inclined to think this is a production mistake, because surely Juliet would check the file closely enough to make sure it was really Rachel's -- leaving the word "Male" on it would seem to be too major a slip-up for Ben to make if he was conning Juliet. And I can't think of any scenario where it would make sense for Rachel to really be a male. But it's odd, nontheless.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:57 AM   #2
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I haven't looked at this so my comment is just speculation, but is it possible that "Sex:Male" referred to the sex of her fetus? (Rachel was still pregnant at that point.)
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:57 AM   #3
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Good catch. It's for a 5'11" 187lb male.

I don't understand why she didn't call him out on this lie after he'd pleaded to ther that he wasn't a liar. It was a nasty one.
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i have to say, when Ben brought out Rachel's medical charts out of his rabbit bag, you just had to figure he was conning Juliet like he did Sawyer (or did he: we now know that the Others can implant medical devices...)
OO it never occured to me,, sawyer could have a chip in him!! 0_0 wow... this is worrisome





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Hm, that's just plain weird. Even if it was a fake chart, why would Ben and co. allow such blatant mistake? Weird.
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:22 AM   #6
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Re: Rachel's Charts

Ok... so maybe Juliet's sister being pregnant was more of a miracle than we thought... maybe she was a man previously! Ha, probably not!
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:30 AM   #7
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Re: Rachel's Charts

WOW. I've tried to tell myself that my ideas of Rachel being a man were too far fetched. But, I was always haunted by two things: 1) Juliet's successful experiments were about impregnating male mice and 2) what Rachel said to Juliet, "All my life, all I've wanted is to have a baby." (that might not be exact, but I think it is close) That line was repeated in a FB in tonight's episode. It wasn't, "Ever since I had cancer, I've wished I could have a baby," but more like something that has always been impossible.

Wow. Plus, I might as well stick my neck out here completely. Could there be any similarity to Ben's cancer and Rachel's? Could the cancer be caused by some of the experiments that Juliet is trying? Had she tried experiments on Rachel that had cancerous side effects? Does Ben want to be pregnant? (He certainly wanted a child enough to take Danielle's) And, is his cancer the result of Juliet's experiments on him? Didn't Juliet say to Ben (tonight), "You told me that no one on the island can get cancer." She said it as if it had something to do with her work on the island.

Well, this all sounds pretty wild, but I'm going to hit "sumbit" and hope to see a screen shot of that chart tomorrow. Of course, if it's all just nuts, you can see I'm a newbie. So, you can just shake your head and move on.

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Re: Rachel's Charts

I'm leaning towards prop error , just because they messed up medical props before (the date on the spinal x-ray) Also Juliet is looking at an electrocardiogram which records the electrical activity of the heart, would she really be looking at that to conclude that her sister has cancer? (chime in doctors and let us know!)
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I think it was a con.

They can cure cancer but can't find out why pregnant women on the island die?
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WOW. I've tried to tell myself that my ideas of Rachel being a man were too far fetched. But, I was always haunted by two things: 1) Juliet's successful experiments were about impregnating male mice and 2) what Rachel said to Juliet, "All my life, all I've wanted is to have a baby." (that might not be exact, but I think it is close) That line was repeated in a FB in tonight's episode. It wasn't, "Ever since I had cancer, I've wished I could have a baby," but more like something that has always been impossible.
Well, that's kind of interesting, isn't it? I still lean towards prop error -- I mean, if they could make that date mistake in Paolo's newspaper, which is something I would have thought they were watching ultra-carefully, I guess I could see them re-using Ben's charts from earlier in the season and not changing the gender. But you've raised a pretty interesting issue given Juliet's work on male mice. I guess my feeling is that it's unlikely we'll ever see a flashback where they focus on Juliet's sister really being a brother -- seems like too divergent/tangential a place to go for this show.
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