What no one is mentioning is maybe the Girl died from the fall in the visions and because Desmond saved Charlie he also saved the girl
That would mean either Desmond now has 2 people to keep from dying or he actually passed the test by sacrificing what he thought was Penny to save Charlie.
the way des was acting, i would have been convinced he thought it was penny. i think him saving charlie somehow changed what happened in the outside world and the parachute girl changed from being penny to naomi. he knew it was a girl before it was made obvious to the viewers
I like that thought, but it may be because I'm looking at the whole situation through a Judeo-Christian lens, with "The Island" being the supreme being. In a biblical, Christian sense, Des would be rewarded for continually saving Charlie, and especially for sacrificing Penny for Charlie. However, maybe the "island" dogma dictates that Desmond is "sinning" for saving Charlie, and the parachutist not being Penny is his punishment.
Sorry if this seems unclear, but I hope I'm getting my point across.
But I like LLostie's thoughts too that maybe the forces testing desmond are not good. Kind of how the Locke said the island demanded Boone as a sacrifice..it may want charlie
The problem with us is we may be applying our correct sense of sacrifice to the shows creepy and distorted version of it.
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Once again they pointed out Desmond was on the Island for 3 years--same as Juliet--which they also keep reminding us of. There has to be a reason they keep mentioning this.
I hate that Lost is pushed back an hour because by then i am well into a handful of beers and that makes it difficult to follow such a detailed-oriented show. Wow. It never occured to me about the Des/Juliet thing. Cool.
Still I dont buy the idea that had Des not saved Charlie someone else would have fallen from the sky or that person would have lived or died accordingly. I like that the writers are able to challenge us like this but that borders on near silliness IMHO. I mean who can keep up with that kind of logic? I dont mind being wrong but I wouldnt respect this subplot too well if that is the case.
I honestly don't think that anything changed accept Charlie living. I think Des saw a flash of Penny in his vision, and that's why he thought the parachutist was her. But the flash of Penny was out of place. It was from when he broke up with her, not from the island. Perhaps that flash was supposed to tell him that Penny was INVOLVED, but I don't think that they person who was already in the tree magically changed from Penny to someone else the moment he saved Charlie.
Plus, the scene in his vision of the body falling could have still been him cutting her down like he did anyway. I really think that, while DESMOND may think that Charlie living changed everything, that he is mistaken.
You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one
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Re: Parachute Girl dead in the Vision
As ridiculously mundane as it may sound, perhaps Des saving Charlie led to the parachutist's survival simply because there were 3 people to hold the tarp for her to land in. If it had been just Hurley and Jin holding it on either side, wouldn't have been as good of a 'cushion' for her to fall on.
As ridiculously mundane as it may sound, perhaps Des saving Charlie led to the parachutist's survival simply because there were 3 people to hold the tarp for her to land in. If it had been just Hurley and Jin holding it on either side, wouldn't have been as good of a 'cushion' for her to fall on.
Possibly, but you can see Charlie holding the parachute in the flashbacks... so I think that rules this out?
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