The Fuselage

The Fuselage.com: The Official Site of the Creative Team Behind ABC's Award Winning TV Show "LOST"
Sponsored by J.J. Abrams


Go Back   The Fuselage > Lost Episodes > Lost Season 3 > The Brig
Flicks N Shows Arcade Tags Social Groups

The Brig Air Date: 5/2/2007 60 minutes EP: 319
Written by Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse
Directed by Eric Laneuville


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-03-2007, 01:20 PM   #1
Nevermore
Premium Economy

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: October 21, 2006
Location: Germany
Stats
Posts: 1,415
Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Back in season 1's "Outlaws", Jack told Sawyer: "That's why the Red Sox will never win the World Series". That alone was enough to make Sawyer ask for more details that would eventually make him realize that he met Jack's old man in a bar. Just because a random throwaway line some guy in a bar said.

This week, the guy who just revealed himself to be Locke's father mentioned the word "con", and Sawyer instantly gets the idea that Cooper might be The Real Sawyer.

Seems pretty odd to me especially since Sawyer usually shares the other characters' habit of Never Asking Any Questions.
Nevermore is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 01:33 PM   #2
Debisobsessed
Economy

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: May 12, 2005
Location: Michigan
Stats
Posts: 369
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

"That's why the sox will never win the series" was not a common phrase, and having two people say it in such a short time time would make me suspicious as well. As for the Cooper issue, Locke lies to him and tells him that he has Ben hostage, then locks him in a room with some strange guy. He already suspicious at this point. Then the guy tells him that he's a con artist who has held many aliases. That's not a big leap for him to make, especially when he's been so obsessed with the issue that he keeps the letter to Sawyer in his pocket.
Debisobsessed is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 01:36 PM   #3
zillah
Coach

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: September 16, 2006
Stats
Posts: 180
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevermore View Post
Back in season 1's "Outlaws", Jack told Sawyer: "That's why the Red Sox will never win the World Series". That alone was enough to make Sawyer ask for more details that would eventually make him realize that he met Jack's old man in a bar. Just because a random throwaway line some guy in a bar said.

This week, the guy who just revealed himself to be Locke's father mentioned the word "con", and Sawyer instantly gets the idea that Cooper might be The Real Sawyer.

Seems pretty odd to me especially since Sawyer usually shares the other characters' habit of Never Asking Any Questions.
Actually it's not odd. Locke had been prepping Sawyer the entire walk to the ship by asking specific questions in a specific order...

"The file didn't say WHY your dad killed himself and your mom.... It also didn't say WHY you go by Sawyer...."

Sawyer was already suspsicious. Also, as a con his main skills involve paying attention to key things people say and then using them to his advantage. He's a great con man and he will be very aware when he is getting conned by someone else. He's already wary of Locke and Locke's line of questions were designed to make Sawyer suspicious.
zillah is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 01:40 PM   #4
Madge
Business Class
Please visit this station responsibly
 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: January 29, 2005
Location: California, East Bay.
Stats
Posts: 3,031
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

And Locke told him basically that he would want to kill the guy after hearing what the guy had to say. There was only one guy Sawyer really wanted to kill, the con man.
Madge is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 01:58 PM   #5
Caffreys
Coach

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: May 29, 2006
Location: TX
Stats
Posts: 215
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

I don't think I'd say that Sawyer was jumping to "odd" conclusions, when on both of your examples he made the right conclusion.

Sawyer's a smart guy and he appears to be rather intuitive when it comes to the people he knows well. Remember how quickly he was able to figure out that Kate had used him b/c she was upset/jealous with Jack?
Caffreys is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 02:30 PM   #6
desmondslosthairstraighteners
Economy
Lost faith...
 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: November 16, 2005
Stats
Posts: 373
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

So what's gonna happen with Sawyer's story now? Are they going to kill him off because that's pretty much wrapped up now, that's the only reason Sawyer wanted to get off the island, he said this in Exodus Part 1, so are we ever going to get a Sawyer flashback ever again?

I guess you could say the same thing about Locke, but he still has an important role to play, his connection with the island, Sawyer doesn't have that, i guess we'll just be seeing him kick *** on-island in future then.
desmondslosthairstraighteners is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 03:46 PM   #7
NikkiNap
Coach

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: October 24, 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Stats
Posts: 234
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Quote:
Originally Posted by desmondslosthairstraighteners View Post
So what's gonna happen with Sawyer's story now? Are they going to kill him off because that's pretty much wrapped up now, that's the only reason Sawyer wanted to get off the island, he said this in Exodus Part 1, so are we ever going to get a Sawyer flashback ever again?

I guess you could say the same thing about Locke, but he still has an important role to play, his connection with the island, Sawyer doesn't have that, i guess we'll just be seeing him kick *** on-island in future then.
I don't think he'll die, and I don't think he's "wrapped up" his storyline - after all, on the island, we've seen Locke and Hurley give him a new one - Hurley showed him that he can lead, and likes being a leader, and Locke handed him the tape recorder - it's Sawyer's new purpose to bring that back to the beach, rejoin "society" after what he's done, and play an opposing figure to Jack.

I also don't think Sawyer's ever jumped to an odd conclusion - he's a quick one, and almost always able to read between the lines.
NikkiNap is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 06:53 PM   #8
Nevermore
Premium Economy

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: October 21, 2006
Location: Germany
Stats
Posts: 1,415
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Now, the other thing is that Sawyer is currently the one with the best knowledge of "odd character connections". He knows he met Jack's old man, and he knows that Locke's dad was his nemesis. Will this be enough for him to try and investigate more on how he and his fellow castaways are connected to each other?
Nevermore is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2007, 07:10 PM   #9
nonnyd
Economy

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: June 2, 2005
Stats
Posts: 462
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Didn't all of us notice instantly when Jack used the Red Sox line? Didn't we all speculate that Cooper was the real Sawyer after he talked about a con, last season? Sawyer's as smart as a TV fan, at least.
nonnyd is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2007, 07:01 AM   #10
Nevermore
Premium Economy

 
Additional Info
Profile
Join Date: October 21, 2006
Location: Germany
Stats
Posts: 1,415
Re: Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Quote:
Originally Posted by nonnyd View Post
Didn't all of us notice instantly when Jack used the Red Sox line? Didn't we all speculate that Cooper was the real Sawyer after he talked about a con, last season? Sawyer's as smart as a TV fan, at least.
We're all aware it's a TV show where weird character connections are all over the place, though.
Nevermore is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

The Fuselage > Lost Episodes > Lost Season 3 > The Brig > Sawyer jumping to really odd conclusions

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Flicks N Shows:  A posting board to discuss your favorite tv shows, movies, video games, sports, comics, books, music anime and more!!!


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:52 PM.


Help Support
The Fuselage
by Shopping with Amazon
Search Now:

Lost: The Complete Collection
On DVD and Blu-ray

Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season
On DVD and Blu-ray

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The Fuselage

Page generated in 0.28483 seconds with 11 queries [Server Loads: 0.07 0.02 : 0.00]