Lost: The AnswersAirdate: 05/17/2007 45 minutes
A series recap exploring questions that have been answered and those that haven't. Executive producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof host.
Dharma was experimenting in life extension as shown in a couple videos. Its most likely plausible that Richard being a hostile was experimented on and the experiment he got was the life extension program causing him to age but at a very slow rate.
Also just an FYI but Karl also is older than he appears because he to got the life extension program.
But I'm not the one with the "ageless pirate" theory. I'm the one who thinks it's silly and who is trying to shoot it down.
Not only did I read it. I'll reprint it here: "I think the aging of Richard is not something that was forgotten about or a mistake. I think it may be an important thing to think about and see where that particular idea goes."
"I think..."
"I think it may be an important thing..."
Sounds to me he's speculating like the rest of us! Now if he had given a direct quote from the script that said "RICHARD APPEARS IN THE JUNGLE LOOKING EXACTLY THE SAME AS HE DOES NOW", then I'd be convinced.
I believe that was the basis of Not A Good Person's theory so I don't understand your problem with it.
What evidence? What experiments?
Can I have your cake?
I like that theory better than the Ageless Pirate theory too!
But that IS your theory ... that he ages like normal people do. And as for Gregg's "I think" ... you have to understand that he cannot give away spoilers anymore than any other member of this show. The fact that he tells us to pay attention to it says that it is important. He is telling us that the fact that they did not try to make Richard look younger or older in his current state is vital to the case that there IS something up with his looking the same then as he does now. And FWTW, I only thought "pirate" until I learned more about the Black Rock and found that it was not a pirate ship. So ageless, yes ... pirate, no.
It doesn't mean anything in English as far as I know.
I'll bite. What is "Joop?"
Someone mentioned this in another thread but I don't think he/she ever explained.
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Dharma was experimenting in life extension as shown in a couple videos.
I don't remember life extension being mentioned in any of the videos. I remember the Swan video mentioning electomagnetism, meteorology, zoology, parapsychology and utopian societies. The Pearl video dealt only with psychology.
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Also just an FYI but Karl also is older than he appears because he to got the life extension program.
He did? Which episode was this mentioned in? Are you sure we are watching the same show?
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But that IS your theory ... that he ages like normal people do.
LOL I wouldn't call that a theory (unless people aging at different rates is the norm!)! I think it's safe to assume everyone ages at the same rate until substantial evidence to the contrary is presented. I don't need to craft a "theory" to say Richard was in his 20s when he met Ben and is in his 40s now.
Now if someone wants to make the claim that he was in his 40s then and he is still in his 40s now, they're the ones who have to concoct a "theory" (and hopefully have some evidence to back it beyond "He looked the same to me."). Sayid looks the same to me now as he did in the Gulf War but I'm not about to propose the outrageous notion that he doesn't age! In real life Kevin Tighe and Terry O'Quinn, who play father and son on LOST, are close in age. Is anyone going to suggest Locke's father stopped aging at some point too? Let's be fair with all this non-aging supposition. Why is only Richard being placed under the microscope here? LOST has been chock full of flashbacks where we had to suspend our disbelief and accept the character as younger than our eyes tell us. Remember Jack and his bad wig in "Man of Science, Man of Faith"? How about Claire as a teenager? Does it bother anyone that they didn't get a teenage actress to play that part?
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And as for Gregg's "I think" ... you have to understand that he cannot give away spoilers anymore than any other member of this show. The fact that he tells us to pay attention to it says that it is important. He is telling us that the fact that they did not try to make Richard look younger or older in his current state is vital to the case that there IS something up with his looking the same then as he does now. And FWTW, I only thought "pirate" until I learned more about the Black Rock and found that it was not a pirate ship. So ageless, yes ... pirate, no.
I don't know what this Gregg Nationss's track record is as far as giving reliable clues. I think we will just have to wait and see.
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In Every Man For Himself Jack estimates Ben's age at approximately 40 years old. When we first see Ben meet Richard he (Ben) couldn't really be any older then 13. So there is about 27 (or so) years in between then and now where Richard has shown no real signs of aging. We've seen Ben, Ben's dad and Horace Goodspeed all age normally during that time while Richard maintains his youthful good looks, that isn't normal. No one naturally ages that well, there is more story to be told there.
I've got no idea what it could be or why it only seems to be effecting him (as far as we have been shown), but that's why I love this show.
I don't think someone should be required to play computer games, read novels, put together jigsaw puzzles or fish a secret decoder ring out of a box of Dharma-Os to understand what's going on on a TV show.
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In Every Man For Himself Jack estimates Ben's age at approximately 40 years old. When we first see Ben meet Richard he (Ben) couldn't really be any older then 13. So there is about 27 (or so) years in between then and now where Richard has shown no real signs of aging.
Let's say Richard was about 20 years old when he met Ben. That means he would now be in his middle-to-late 40s. What signs of aging do you expect to see? Is Richard supposed to be walking around with a cane and an ear trumpet now?
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All good points.
Could be that the Richard/Ben flashback was just like anyone elses. The only exception, and maybe the main reason so many are doubting Richard's aging, is that this flashback is the only one that shows two current adult characters-one being played by the same actor in past and present and the other being played by a child actor for the past/adult actor for the present.
Plus the fact that Richard is the only character that we know could be indigenious (sp) to the island.
Maybe he ages very slowly or not at all because he is as Locke would say intune with the island.
Which is something Ben is not. Which is what peeked his interest in Locke in the first place.
Maybe Ben has never been able to figure out just what is so different between him and Richard, that he ages and doesn't heal quickly, yet Richard doesn't age.
Maybe Ben has out aged Richard, which caused him to look for someone else with the answer. Locke because he completely healed when he crashed on the island.
Maybe it just isn't Richard. Maybe some of the Others are aging normally while others are not.
Maybe that is what this whole baby thing is about. Maybe they need childern to see if they will all grow up, if so at what rate of speed, at what age does the aging prosses slow down or stop?
Why does it work for some people and not others?
I don't think someone should be required to play computer games, read novels, put together jigsaw puzzles or fish a secret decoder ring out of a box of Dharma-Os to understand what's going on on a TV show.
Let's say Richard was about 20 years old when he met Ben. That means he would now be in his middle-to-late 40s. What signs of aging do you expect to see? Is Richard supposed to be walking around with a cane and an ear trumpet now?
Go take a look at Ben when he meets Richard. He is a little boy. Then look at Ben when he purges all of Dharma and you will see they removed all of his age marks like age lines, wrinkles and such. Now go look at present day and Ben is easily a man in his 40's.
Now go look at Richard. Out of the 3 time periods we saw him, the only difference was that he had long hair. Even just look at the purge and now. Ben has aged signifigantly getting wrinkles, age spots and such and Richard looks EXACTLY like he did during the purge. EXACTLY.
The question you need to ask yourself is why when Ben has aged in his apperence has Richard not.
Here is another thing, is there is absolutly nothing to this Richard is slowly aging theory then why on earth did TPTB not use a child actor when Richard 1st meet Ben or another Hostle we have yet to see? Why did they purposlyy choose Richard as an adult. When on this show have they every done ANYTHING that didn't mean something? NEVER.
Adult Richard meeting child Ben is used to show there is something up with Richards age.Plain and simple. Anyone who can't notice that may just not want to believe it this idea because they don't like said idea. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, 99.99999999999% of the time its a duck.
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Oh, is this a "Lost Experience" thing?
I didn't trouble myself with that nonsense.
I don't think someone should be required to play computer games, read novels, put together jigsaw puzzles or fish a secret decoder ring out of a box of Dharma-Os to understand what's going on on a TV show.
Let's say Richard was about 20 years old when he met Ben. That means he would now be in his middle-to-late 40s. What signs of aging do you expect to see? Is Richard supposed to be walking around with a cane and an ear trumpet now?
The Lost experience is just as much part of a show as the podcasts, the extra's on the dvd's and the extra Lost answers shows are.
If you ignore then you are missing out on part of the show. Your cheating yourself out of the ENTIRE LOst experience.
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Let's say Richard was about 20 years old when he met Ben. That means he would now be in his middle-to-late 40s. What signs of aging do you expect to see? Is Richard supposed to be walking around with a cane and an ear trumpet now?
No, but I would have expected them to slap on a load of make-up to make him look younger, as they did for Michael Emerson in his Purge flashback (which would have been only half the time). And as I said, we can clearly see what the time passing has done to Ben's dad and Horace Goodspeed, yet Richard remains unchanged.
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