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Greatest Hits Air Date: 5/16/2007 60 minutes EP: 321
Written by Adam Horowitz & Edward Kitsis
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:28 PM   #1
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Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

Hey guys, loved the emotionally packed, emotionally draining (haha) episode, but here's something I caught on my second viewing.

When Ben returns about 18 minutes through the episode (without commercial breaks), Richard clearly, to me at least, says...

Richard: What happened out there- did John see...
Ben: John had an accident.


I think it might be implying that even Richard was awaiting to see if Locke could in fact SEE Jacob. I think Richard knows about what's going on with Jacob.

Ben acted like he was excited but was going to kill Locke because he'd be the true one,

while

Richard sincerely wanted Locke to see Jacob because that means their chosen one has arrived.
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:55 AM   #2
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

I didnt catch that, ill have to check it out again. I think the Others, maybe especially Alpert, were interested if he could see Jacob. They seemed interestd that he could walk again. Im sure about Locke being the "Chosen One," but he certainly is "special."
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:14 AM   #3
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

Yeah, absolutely, I caught that the second time through.

You know, as crazy as it sounds, I really want to like Richard. He seems so amiable, and the only really rotten thing I've seen him do is participate in the purge. A big part of me wants to believe that the purge was Ben's idea, or at least the method in which it was carried out. Maybe I just want to lump all the evil on Ben.
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:17 AM   #4
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

Yep I caught that too. They have a habit of doing that, of starting a sentence but not finishing in (Like Mikhail saying 'the John Locke I knew was para....') Can no one on this island complete a sentence?
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:00 AM   #5
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

Richard is one of the more interesting characters to me.

He has shown twice now, that he does not cower to Ben. He gave Locke Sawyer's file and he let Locke beat the piss out of Mikhail while Ben shouted.

I am going to assume the Richard is native to the island (lots of circumstantial evidence, but this is Lost) and that he either ages really slowly or doesn't age.
While the purge was awful, if his people were harmed by Dharma, if the DI was doing experiments, if the DI caused the fertility problems, then his people may have been justified in doing what they did. Ben was just a sad little boy that didn't like is dad, oh...and he is sociopathic. He doesn't really have an excuse for involving himself in the purge. We do not know enough about Dharma and the Others to say for certain what went down between them.

So, going on the assumption that the above is true, it is entirely possible that the reason that Richard latched onto Ben was because he and his people were awaiting an arrival that would save them. Perhaps Ben was thought to be that person. Especially considering that jacob is some kind of god-like thing to the Others and Ben is the only person that has access to him.

I think that Richard started feeling like Ben wasn't the person that would save them when he got the tumor. I think that that is when Richard started believing that perhaps Locke was the person they were waiting for. That would be why is was questioning Ben is John saw Jacob. If John did, then Richard was right and Ben isn't the chosen one.

There is no evidence to support the above, I know. I do think that there is a definite possiblity that something like this is happening.
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

He could have just meant did Jon see Jacob in the sense that one "sees" ones doctor or a friend.

I guess what I'm saying is that it might not reveal that Richard knows something about the nature of Jacob, only that he was wondering if Locke actually met Jacob and what came out of that encounter.

Just an idea though. I'm personally a subscriber to the Black Rock/Magnus Hanso theorey, so I'd imagine that Richard does, in fact, know quite a bit aobut the nature of Jacob.
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

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Yeah, absolutely, I caught that the second time through.

You know, as crazy as it sounds, I really want to like Richard. He seems so amiable, and the only really rotten thing I've seen him do is participate in the purge. A big part of me wants to believe that the purge was Ben's idea, or at least the method in which it was carried out. Maybe I just want to lump all the evil on Ben.
I agree, I can't help but feel that Richard is a good guy. The hostiles were clearly at war with Darma, but we have yet to understand what necessitated it.
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:58 PM   #8
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Cool Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

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Hey guys, loved the emotionally packed, emotionally draining (haha) episode, but here's something I caught on my second viewing.

When Ben returns about 18 minutes through the episode (without commercial breaks), Richard clearly, to me at least, says...

Richard: What happened out there- did John see...
Ben: John had an accident.


I think it might be implying that even Richard was awaiting to see if Locke could in fact SEE Jacob. I think Richard knows about what's going on with Jacob.

Ben acted like he was excited but was going to kill Locke because he'd be the true one,

while

Richard sincerely wanted Locke to see Jacob because that means their chosen one has arrived.
I remember that scene too. I think it's clear that the Others think Locke is special. I also think part of Ben's ability to stay in power is his special relationship with Jacob. That's why Locke was shot. Locke was a threat to Ben's hold on power since he could hear Jacob too.
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:55 PM   #9
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

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You know, as crazy as it sounds, I really want to like Richard. He seems so amiable, and the only really rotten thing I've seen him do is participate in the purge. A big part of me wants to believe that the purge was Ben's idea, or at least the method in which it was carried out. Maybe I just want to lump all the evil on Ben.
I feel you. IMO, someone that pretty can't be evil. Besides, he doesn't feel like he has to do what Ben says and I love that.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:08 AM   #10
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Re: Richard's comment: "Did John see..."

I think that Ben cutting off Richard in that scene will play out to be important. It seems like a lot of the others realize that Ben is freaked out and acting rash when he comes back - a far cry from the cold, calculating, evil genius we have all come to know and love/hate.

From Richard's point of view, I think that Ben's behavior upon his return answers his own question.
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