Last time I checked, Tom was not on any of the Losties top 8 friends on myspace.
Lets take a reminder course on Mr. Tom where Sawyer is concerned.
1. Tom has held a gun to Kates head while holding her hostage in front of Sawyer.
2. He has kidnapped a child (Walt) right in front of Sawyer and was there when Sawyer was "shot" and fell into the ocean to die.
3. He was one of the ones to tranquilize and take Kate Jack and Sawyer at the end of season 2.
4. He was holding Sawyer in a cage over on the Others little Island.
5. He has been behind multiple kidnappings of children from the losties.
6. In this last episode he was leading a team to come to the Losties camp and kidnap Sun and Kate.
7. He had Bernard, Jin and Sayid held at gunpoint and was making a strong case as to why they needed to kill them right in from of Sawyer.
It might be my Marine Corps. instinct but if given a gun in hand and the fact im on foreign soil and dealing with an enemy that time and time again has come after myself, women and children I would have put a bullet square in his chest too.
It might be my Marine Corps. instinct but if given a gun in hand and the fact im on foreign soil and dealing with an enemy that time and time again has come after myself, women and children I would have put a bullet square in his chest too.
I'm not sure Marines are trained to kill enemies who surrender. But on an island where the Geneva Conventions are not observed...
Still, for sure, this isn't conventional warfare, and I guess by this point we can all assume the terms of engagement have been made clear for both sides and killing a captive is acceptable for all involved. And in a real war you wouldn't really have a grudge against a particular soldier on the other side, you wouldn't even meet them.
Tom's surrender changed the dynamics of this "kill" from a war casualty into murder
Agreed. To kill comeone who is charging at you with a gun is one thing. To kill them when they have their hands up and have surrendered is quite another.
Besides, killing the guilty is never a murder. There is no court of law on the island, so Sawyer dispensed justice the only way he knew how.
I would have to disagree, just because the person is guilty does not mean the person is free from murdering someone.
Here a definition of murder from dictionary.com: Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).
Of course, they weren't in the U.S. But it seems pretty universal that murder is killing someone based on intent by thinking of it beforehand.
What Sawyer did was a necessary evil. It had to be done because who knows what they could have done in the future.
I will miss Tom too. I love what the writers did with his character as a person that was dangerous and reviled to somewhat of a lovable buffoon to being reminded how dangerous he was. After all, everyone says he surrendered and should not have been murdered, yum, well what was he proposing to do to Bernard, Sayid and Jin, kill them after they surrendered. So it is okay that he proposes it but not okay he does not die by what he proposes. Seems fair to me.
Since when does kidnapping or threatening with a gun in the PAST justify cold blooded murder?
Shooting someone who surrendered, is unarmed and already on the ground is just plain old murder. Hell, one could even argue "first degree" here.
No judge would even dream of buying that as self defense.
MR.FUSELAGE 2007
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