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The Beginning of the End Air Date: 1/31/2008 62 minutes EP: 401
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:09 AM   #1
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Feels like a hundred years ago...

[Jack and Kate observe the front-section plane wreckage]

KATE
Are you thinking of Charlie?

JACK
Feels like a hundred years ago that we came out here together.
How did this happen?

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:51 AM   #2
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Re: Feels like a hundered years ago...

Jack was really referring to Season 1. Remember in the Pilot when him, Kate, and Charlie first came out to that same plane together? When they all went inside of the plane and the pilot gets pulled out suddenly? Possibly from the smoke monster.. we all had theories it was Smokey. It has been a long time seeing Jack and Kate at that plane together. That spot was one of the places where things all began.

So, I don't think this means anything.. just a feeling you would usually feel if you've been stranded on an island for days..months after a plane crash... it would feel like forever.. like 100 years.. when so much had happened on the island.. and they've been waiting for a rescue for so long.

Jack was just thinking back on things.

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I'm sure Jack meant that it actually feels like its been 100 years since the plane crashed. So much had happened on that island.

Don't think this means anything.. just a feeling you would usually feel if you've been stranded on an island for days..months... it would feel like forever.. if there's no rescue.
This is what I'm going with. It's like when you're waiting in line, and with someone complaining to them about how slow it's moving. "My gosh, it feels like we've been in this line for ten years!" When maybe it's been ten minutes. I think it's just a figure of speech.
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I'm sure Jack meant that it actually feels like its been 100 years since the plane crashed. So much had happened on that island.

Don't think this means anything.. just a feeling you would usually feel if you've been stranded on an island for days..months... it would feel like forever.. if there's no rescue.
le sigh... yes. I know what the character of Jack meant when he said it. Jeez, are you two noobs? Do you know how we play the LOST game? People say things, we see things, we think they might be hints or clues because most of us believe that nothing on LOST happens or is said without express reasons, then we go online and wiki every literary, philosophical or religious reference, anagram every name, draw diagrams over screencaps, and then come on here and try to tell everyone about the brilliant and clever insights we have and why our theory is the correct one, and then we go to sleep and have dreams of being one of the Losties, hangin out with Hurley and Charlie, doin' it with Kate and pressing the button every 108 minutes until we don't and then the sky turns purple and a big explosion happens and then we wake up, naked in bed. And we say to ourselves that we really can't keep obsessing like this because it is taking over our lives... so we say that we'll never go back, but it calls us to it and we end up travelling back to the Island every Thursday.
so... now then... I know what Jack said... what did it mean?

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This is what I'm going with. It's like when you're waiting in line, and with someone complaining to them about how slow it's moving. "My gosh, it feels like we've been in this line for ten years!" When maybe it's been ten minutes. I think it's just a figure of speech.
Yes, thats exactly what I meant to say!! LOL I was trying to explain that!!
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le sigh... yes. I know what the character of Jack meant when he said it. Jeez, are you two noobs? Do you know how we play the LOST game? People say things, we see things, we think they might be hints or clues because most of us believe that nothing on LOST happens or is said without express reasons, then we go online and wiki every literary, philosophical or religious reference, anagram every name, draw diagrams over screencaps, and then come on here and try to tell everyone about the brilliant and clever insights we have and why our theory is the correct one, and then we go to sleep and have dreams of being one of the Losties, hangin out with Hurley and Charlie, doin' it with Kate and pressing the button every 108 minutes until we don't and then the sky turns purple and a big explosion happens and then we wake up, naked in bed. And we say to ourselves that we really can't keep obsessing like this because it is taking over our lives... so we say that we'll never go back, but it calls us to it and we end up travelling back to the Island every Thursday.
so... now then... I know what Jack said... what did it mean?
LMAO LMAO LMAO That is to mucking fuch. Very, very funny
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I know what Jack said... what did it mean?
He meant what he said and he said what he meant: he's grieving for Charlie 100%. He's also wondering how they got there, from three innocent survivors seeking rescue in the cockpit, to people who have to fight to be free from the Island. Wondering how it got to the point where he wanted to shoot a man in the face because he kept insisting on keeping them prisoners on the Island. That's about it.
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He meant what he said and he said what he meant: he's grieving for Charlie 100%. He's also wondering how they got there, from three innocent survivors seeking rescue in the cockpit, to people who have to fight to be free from the Island. Wondering how it got to the point where he wanted to shoot a man in the face because he kept insisting on keeping them prisoners on the Island. That's about it.

I completely agree Claudia. He was wondering where the innocence was lost with all 3 of the survivors and how did they all get at this point in the story. I think it was about Charlie and remembering him but I also saw some Jack and Kate undertones there of how did Jack and Kate go from strangers on a plane going to get a black box from the **** pit with an attraction to each other to how complicated things are between them now.

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He meant what he said and he said what he meant: he's grieving for Charlie 100%. He's also wondering how they got there, from three innocent survivors seeking rescue in the cockpit, to people who have to fight to be free from the Island. Wondering how it got to the point where he wanted to shoot a man in the face because he kept insisting on keeping them prisoners on the Island. That's about it.
OK. Let me try this one more time, people. I know what Jack said. I also know what he meant. I asked... what it might have meant. "It" being the subtext -- the hint, the clue, the meaning of the words as written by a writer of LOST... the same writers of LOST who write in anagramed names like Mittelos (Lost Time) and Gary Troup (purgetory); name characters after philosophers and figures from the bible; place copies of books on tables and bookshelves like 'A Brief History of Time' or 'Watership Down'; who put the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42 and 108 on everything from the time on peoples watches to bottles of medicine and car odometers;

I mean come on... for "Christian Shepard's" (aka Christ's) sake... there is a 45 page thread going on right now about the meaning of Hurley's "Ho-Ho's". I'm quite sure that all Hurley meant by saying that Charlie was standing over by the Ho-Ho's was that he saw Charlie standing over by the Ho-Ho's. What the writers meantby having Hurley say that is a whole other discussion. That is the discussion I am trying to have here. Or perhaps you're going to try to explain to me now that you think the reason Hurley mentions Ho-Ho's is because when he saw his dead friend Charlie standing around in a convenience store, that what really stayed with him was what exact brand of snack cakes were on the shelves? Puh-leaze.
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lmao.


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