Slaughterhouse Five

[beema]

Anyone else noticed the parallels between Desmond and Billy Pilgrim?

edit:

"...this will unstick Heloise in time, just like you"

see

[Doctor_Pjegice]

Originally Posted by beema

Anyone else noticed the parallels between Desmond and Billy Pilgrim?

edit:

"...this will unstick Heloise in time, just like you"

see

nice Beema! When he said that I was like, um, I just read that...how did they know that. I have NO idea what that means or how Billy Pilgrim is. Mind elaborating?

DP

[MarkKligman]

From the beginning of the episode I was thinking about Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut. and then when Daniel said "unstuck in time" it sealed the deal. thats a direct recurring line from the book.

any ideas?

[Caliban2]

Wow. Des is Billy Pilgrim from Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse Five". The even used the word "unstuck" to describe his dilemma in time. This episode blew me away. Need to sit back and think about it a while.

[beema]

Originally Posted by Doctor_Pjegice

nice Beema! When he said that I was like, um, I just read that...how did they know that. I have NO idea what that means or how Billy Pilgrim is. Mind elaborating?

DP

yeah sorry
Billy Pilgrim is the protagonist in the famous Kurt Vonnegut novel Slaughterhouse Five. He becomes "unstuck" in time, and jumps back and forth into different periods in his own life. This is possibly a result of him going through a traumatic experience (the book is also about the traumas of war and the firebombing of Dresden, Germany). The book also explores free will vs. fate (another big theme in Lost), so I'm pretty sure there was an intentional reference here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse_five for a decent overview

[SuseIsLost]

Can I mention that the phrase "unstuck in time" also has a connection to one of the other Lost cast? There is an episode (2-parter) of Babylon 5 called World Without End that involves at least one of the characters getting unstuck in time (that phrase is used). Mira Furlan (Danielle) was one of the stars of Babylon 5.

[abbybaby]

I haven't read it, but here's the summary from Wiki,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five
Sounds like there are some similarities.

[Caliban2]

Originally Posted by abbybaby

I haven't read it, but here's the summary from Wiki,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five
Sounds like there are some similarities.

'Similarities' Crap. They're on it. All we need now is Des waking up in a pool after his dad threw him in a pool to make him swim the 'man' way, just like Billy Pilgrim.

Oh, crap again, we've already done that one with Charlie and his Dad at the 'Butlins' in 'Greatest Hits'. Can it be?

[beth8i8]

...hence Charlie being "Dead, but here" in TBotE. I think he's having his own Billy Pilgrim experience now.

[Caliban2]

Originally Posted by beth8i8

...hence Charlie being "Dead, but here" in TBotE. I think he's having his own Billy Pilgrim experience now.

Interesting. Perhaps as an extension of Billy (who only had living time trips). Now we have time trips beyond the grave. Dead people can time trip too. New Thread.