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Ji Yeon Air Date: 3/13/2008 60 minutes EP: 407
Written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz
Directed by Stephen Semel


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Old 03-13-2008, 11:06 PM   #1
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Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

I don't think this has been posted yet. However, if it has, pardon the newbie .

Last week I was convinced Ben is working for the greater good of everyone. Then tonight I'm thinking, maybe he IS the bad guy after all...maybe he DID stage the 815 plane in the trench....


...but what if the Captain/Widmore is lying about Ben's staging of the trench plane and Ben is telling the truth about Widmore's desire to exploit the island?

Who to believe? Someone help?
I keep going back and forth!

*gasp* or what if there is some Linus-Widmore alliance here?

eeeek!

help!
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:08 PM   #2
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

No doubt if you ask Ben - Widmore will be blamed for the staged crash.

Either may have had the resources to fake the crash.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:09 PM   #3
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

That's the big question. Glad you started the thread. They are clearly enemies or something. Each will blame the other.

Personally, I see no reason to trust either of them or think that either of them is doing something "good." They probably both think they are doing the "right" thing, for whatever reason they think that is "right."

Only time will tell who is the lesser evil....
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:13 PM   #4
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

At this point I do believe that Ben wants to protect the island (whatever his belief of protection is) and that Widmore definitely wants to exploit it.

However, which of them is the good guy and telling the truth? NEITHER!
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:17 PM   #5
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

Neither. Both want control of the island. Everyone else is a pawn on a chess board....or a pebble on a backgammon board...
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

I was wrestling with this thought last week. Then I decided, they both are the bad guys. Ben wants the island for the power it gives him. He is the once and future (he hopes) leader of the Others. He has figured out the secrets of the island and how to use them to his own advantage. We know Widmore is aware of the power Ben holds, from what Miles said to Ben. Widmore wants that same power. He doesn't want to share it with Ben, nor does Ben want to share it.

I say, trust NO ONE, except the survivors of the Oceanic.
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

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Neither. Both want control of the island. Everyone else is a pawn on a chess board....or a pebble on a backgammon board...

oooo good connection!
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:22 PM   #8
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

Not that Michael's the most trustworthy sorce, but his note (I'm assuming it was his) said don't trust the captain. Despite his past doings I trust Michael over the Captain. I still think Widmore is the bad guy in all of this.
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

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I was wrestling with this thought last week. Then I decided, they both are the bad guys. Ben wants the island for the power it gives him. He is the once and future (he hopes) leader of the Others. He has figured out the secrets of the island and how to use them to his own advantage. We know Widmore is aware of the power Ben holds, from what Miles said to Ben. Widmore wants that same power. He doesn't want to share it with Ben, nor does Ben want to share it.

oooh i like this one

Yes it's definitely making more sense. They are enemies, but neither of them is necessarily "good, there's just someone who is the "lesser of two evils" I'm guessing.

Goodness!!!

But I have to admit (being a Ben fan) that when the Captain mentioned his name in connection with the trench plane, I was shocked, disturbed, but oh so excited because that is just SO evil...it adds so much more power to Ben than he already has! Magnificent! I love villains and Ben is definitely a great one!


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Not that Michael's the most trustworthy sorce, but his note (I'm assuming it was his) said don't trust the captain. Despite his past doings I trust Michael over the Captain. I still think Widmore is the bad guy in all of this.

that could've been Ben's brainwashing effects on Michael....

hmmmm

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Old 03-13-2008, 11:29 PM   #10
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Re: Who to believe? Ben or Widmore?

Where does one get 324 dead bodies?
Purge Pit anyone?
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